The Catacombs Forum’s Position on the Pope and Heresy Opposes the Magisterium of Pope Pius XII

The Catacombs Forum, which is closely allied with Fr. David Hewko, seems to have officially taken on Opinion No. 3 of the Five Opinions expounded upon by St. Robert Bellarmine regarding the pope and heresy:

That a pope who is even a manifest heretic is not deposed ipso facto and cannot be deposed by the Church.

The reason why I write that it seems to have officially taken on Opinion No. 3 is because the forum administrator, who goes by the name of “Stone”, posted (see picture of post here) a sermon of Fr. David Hewko given on September 19, 2023, in which Father spoke about and agreed with a letter written by His Excellency Bishop Athanasius Schneider (refer to this post).  In that letter, Bishop Schneider defends the “pontificate” of Jorge Bergoglio by holding to the position that a heretical pope does not lose his office automatically and cannot be deposed by the Church (which is essentially Opinion No. 3).  The forum administrator posted this without making any other comment.  Therefore, it is fair to presume that Opinion No. 3 is also the opinion of the Catacombs Forum.  If I am incorrect, I welcome a clarification.

Unfortunately, the Catacombs Forum, together with Fr. Hewko and Bishop Schneider, oppose the Magisterium of Pope Pius XII by indirectly denying that the public sin of manifest formal heresy by its very nature separates the heretic from the Church.  See this post and this post in defence of my assertion.

Do you see how error spreads from the clergy to the faithful and from the faithful to each other?

5 thoughts on “The Catacombs Forum’s Position on the Pope and Heresy Opposes the Magisterium of Pope Pius XII”

  1. Bishop Schneider’s words-
    ”There is no authority to declare or consider an elected and generally accepted Pope as an invalid Pope.”

    For the salvation of one’s soul, each and every faithful Catholic MUST CONSIDER ALL that regards the TRUTH of the Catholic Faith according to the teachings of JESUS CHRIST through scripture, HIS theologians, saints, historians, canon laws, doctrines, infallible teachings of popes, and so forth as these are JESUS’ instruments, and therefore these are the teachings of JESUS CHRIST through HIS ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH.

    Otherwise, how would any Catholic know how to save his/her soul from satan’s manipulations, lies, and deceptions regarding the TRUE CHURCH instituted by JESUS CHRIST and those other than the TRUE CHURCH which are all the counterfeit church[es]?

    All those Catholics who stayed in the TRUE CHURCH had to reject the counterfeit arians, the counterfeit Luther protestants, the manichean false church, the destruction by vatican 2 which opposed the TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH such as the saintly ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE stepped up in order to save the priesthood from destruction; in addition, how would a soul know to reject the mormon church, the satanic church, the buddhists, and every other counterfeit church down through the ages and now in our times?

    How could a soul be saved unless a soul would consider what is the TRUE CHURCH and what church is counterfeit?

    Bishop Schneider’s words-
    ”The constant practice of the Church makes it evident that even in the case of an invalid election this invalid election will be de facto healed through the general acceptance of the new elected by the overwhelming majority of the cardinals and bishops.”

    I think that the count given by Father Altman is that 99[?] cardinals have been appointed by ANTIPOPE bergoglio. The choices of cardinals by ANTIPOPE bergoglio are nothing more than counterfeit cardinals to falsely be those to elect the successor to ANTIPOPE bergoglio who will also be an ANITIPOPE for obvious reasons. THE TRUTH is that ZERO of those appointed by bergoglio in any position whatsoever are valid, and ALL are invalid because they have been appointed by the ANTIPOPE bergoglio.

    Right reason and right judgement should lead a CATHOLIC to outright conclude to REJECT that ”this invalid election will be de facto healed through the general acceptance of the new elected by the overwhelming majority of the cardinals and bishops”.

    Bishop Schneider’s words-
    ”There is no authority to declare or consider an elected and generally accepted Pope as an invalid Pope.”

    Additionally, it is absurd and opposed to the salvation of one’s soul and opposed to THE TRUTH that Catholics should not/can not/must not ”consider” THE TRUTH established by the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC CHURCH instituted by JESUS CHRIST as all the evidence is overwhelming regarding jorge bergoglio, and THE TRUTH remains that he is NOT THE POPE nor HAS HE EVER BEEN THE POPE.

    For Catholics to save their souls, the evidence regarding the authority to lead Catholics through this period of salvation history has been abundantly established for ALL CATHOLICS according to the teachings of JESUS CHRIST through scripture, HIS theologians, saints, historians, canon laws, doctrines, infallible teachings of popes, and so forth as these are JESUS’ instruments, and therefore these are the teachings of JESUS CHRIST through HIS ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH.

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  2. Maybe this is a position…?

    The conciliar popes uptil 2013 may have proclaimed material herecies, but WERE, as persons, no formal heretics. (rather, as persons, they were strongly believers).
    Fr. Kramer goes into that in his books.

    As a result of this, the visible church uptil 2013 may have consisted of a false and a true church, but – because of the very papacy! – not (yet) of a visible true-, versus a visible false church.

    In 2013 this changed. As Francis is, as a person, a deist, modernist and heretic, since then the church now does consist of a visible true church and a visible false church. The ‘visibility’ namely of the wether or not naming of the name of an antipope (and thus placing oneself in communion with an antipope or not) in the una cum of Holy Mass.

    The antichurch that is thus only visible since 2013, is rebuilt literally from scratch. Exactly like Christ’s church, when all of its members fled at Good Friday. Grain and weed were intertwined until 2013, and only became visible there after.

    It was ia Benedict 16 who did go into this in his study of Ticonius. “Come out of her my people”, Rev. 18:4).

    That having said, the video of Mario Derksen is very worthwile.

    Ps. I’m not a native English speaker, so my wording may lack nuance.

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    • Fr. Paul Kramer does permit at this time attending the Masses of priests who name Jorge Bergoglio in the Canon. Once the formal schism happens, that is the time to no longer attend their Masses.

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      • Makes sense.

        for now

        “an Arian bishop was sent to st. Hermenegild for Easter but he would not accept the Eucharist from him.

        and was beheaded”

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  3. Mario Derksen takes the position that the question of a heretical pope was NEVER a question of a ‘pope’ proclaiming herecy in his official Magisterium, but ALWAYS the question of a ‘pope’ showing herecy in his personal life (“over dinner”).

    https://youtu.be/Ijs0IHubtLs?feature=shared

    20:35

    What do you make of that? Did Fr. Kramer adress this?

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